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Post by Frankenstein Heart on Nov 7, 2007 4:36:15 GMT -5
Greed and lust are both sins, ja? Everyone has at least one Deadly Sin they've committed, will commit, or do commit.
Err- Niether bisexuality, or homosexuality, are sins. Just had to get that out... Yep
And I completely disagree with your "repent" shat. I don't like how a lot of religion has brought people up.
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Post by kenji on Nov 7, 2007 9:16:08 GMT -5
I honestly don't have any problem with people who think being gay is wrong. I get that religion (because in the end that's usually what it boils down to) is a big part of some people's lives. That's their belief and opinion. I can't defend my right to be a gay man and not defend their right to believe that it's wrong. That just seems a bit hypocritical to me. I wouldn't try and change their opinion either. Because honestly, from my experience, the more you pull on someone the harder they pull back.
I believe there are people of all faiths who have struggled with homosexuality and bisexuality. Just because you don't see it or hear it, doesn't mean it isn't there. A friend of mine, who also believes homosexuality and bisexuality are wrong, explained it to me like this;
"Everyone lives with sin and temptation. Our struggle in life is to try and resist it. Sometimes we fail. Sometimes we fail over and over again. We all have different vices. Do I think God will smite you down and burn you to a crisp because you are weak to this particular sin? No. Then I would have to believe he'd do the same to me for having premarital sex last Saturday. We'll all have our day in 'court'. None of us are perfect. I'd like to think that he will look at the total package and not just the stain on your sleeve."
My repent statement was actually made in jest.
I do get that a lot of teenagers sometimes say things to make them look cool. But that is also a part of growing up. I don't believe they are insulting me in any way by doing it. My life struggles are my own and someone simply pretending to be gay or bisexual isn't going to effect me in any way. So if it makes them feel better about themselves, I say let them claim it for a while. There is too much in society today that tells them to hate themselves anyhow.
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Post by luvaluva on Nov 7, 2007 12:40:29 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]Greed and lust are both sins, ja?[/glow]Everyone has at least one Deadly Sin they've committed, will commit, or do commit.
Err- Niether bisexuality, or homosexuality, are sins. Just had to get that out... Yep
And I completely disagree with your "repent" shat. I don't like how a lot of religion has brought people up. [glow=red,2,300]Lust (Latin, luxuria) [/glow] Gluttony (Latin, gula) [glow=red,2,300]Greed (also known as Avarice) (Latin, avaritia)[/glow] Sloth (Latin, acedia) Wrath (Also known as Anger or Revenge) (Latin, ira) Envy (Sometimes known as Jealousy) (Latin, invidia) Pride (Also known as Vanity) (Latin, superbia) Not gonna lie i fail at Pride, Greed bisexuality, and homosexuality are sins. I don't believe in majority of the bible, but common sense will tell you "Life" started with a Male and a Female, anything other then that is wrong. lmao reminds me of the Noah and the gay ark joke......
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Post by Frankenstein Heart on Nov 8, 2007 0:46:47 GMT -5
Ugh- I knows mah Seven Deadly Sins, fucking LOVE the shit about 'em... I am sloth- Definitely.
I'm just saying I don't agree with you. If GOD made faggots, why can't HE stop it? This epidemic? WAY TO GO, GOD! ROFL
kenji:: That's what I figured. To be on the safe side though, I giffs my input
I just think kids are dumb pretending they're something they're not. Quite a lot like other things they do...
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Post by moonlightgranger on Nov 18, 2007 23:32:38 GMT -5
Well, first before I state my own opinion I want to clear somethings up, since I know all this bible stuff.
Well, Christians can be bi, actually. Not all of them are not gay or bi. Maybe most of them are not, but a minority of them are. Like for cussers, I know most Christians are really really against cussing, and they will convict you everytime you cuss, and a minority of us still cuss. We don't stop because of religion, but are we religious? Very, but Hell, we will fucking cuss!
Viljo, all the sins are the same, they are sins, not one is worse.
Okay, I am not against the people but the concept, yes, I am strongly against it. I don't think it's right. People are people though. Yes, I'll willingly be the odd one, here. I don't think it should exist, but I only think that. I try and respect the people that are, and be courteous to them. I don't think it's right to be rude to someone just because you are against there believes.
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Post by kenji on Nov 22, 2007 3:18:36 GMT -5
I've said it before and I will say it again. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I was, am, and forever will be ok with the fact that other people are not ok with homosexuality and bisexuality.
I'll even go as far as to respect their being uncomfortable with it and refrain from any sort of affection in their presence. Hey, I'm not big on PDA's anyhow.
The only thing that has ever bothered me is when people take the fact that I am gay and use it as the soul identification for who I am as a person. That isn't all there is to me, and truth be told, you probably wouldn't even know I was gay if you met me on the street unless I told you so.
I like your comparison with cussing.
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Post by moonlightgranger on Nov 22, 2007 13:06:11 GMT -5
Thanks! I only used it because I just want to make clear very religious Christian can be bisexual, cuss, or do whatever they want and they can be really religious.
Again, I am against the belief, the idea, concept, throry, or whatever the hell yyou would like to call it. I am not however against those people. I have a bisexual friend, do I go against them? No! I just go against the belief!
I could possiblly have a gay teacher, am I against him and hate him forever? No! I just go against there belief!
We can still have a excellent relationship.
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Post by Frankenstein Heart on Nov 26, 2007 0:48:41 GMT -5
Err- Yeah... I never said any were worse. :s I like to find out more about them and study them, though (Like, in movies and books).
Identifying you as gay/bi to match your personality is just like stereotyping. It all involves some mishap or event that took place with someone who seemed similar (Even if they don't know you at all). So yes, it i most unfortunate.[
I just dislike the people who wish to act out in violence against bisexuals and homosexuals (Like the gay-bashing shit). I can't stand it. Why war against ourselves...?
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Post by moonlightgranger on Nov 26, 2007 23:04:33 GMT -5
I hate when people judge other people by how they are saying things. My friends comments about this teacher beeing gay bugs me.
"He's gay, he talks like a gay guy, don't you think so?"
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Post by Frankenstein Heart on Nov 28, 2007 14:53:36 GMT -5
Why, does he have a lisp?
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Post by moonlightgranger on Nov 30, 2007 3:11:24 GMT -5
A what?
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Post by starbright9 on Nov 30, 2007 12:34:47 GMT -5
It's a speaking condition which means you can't say certain letters.
The deadly sin I'm guilty of having committed is jealousy/envy. Big time.
I find it really annoying when people stereotype like that. Not just about gay of bi, but other things as well.
I can't remember what the bible actually says about homosexuality (I haven't read any in years and it doesn't effect my views as I'm not religious). In some places I think it says it's not okay but I think it was rather vague. I can't really remember though.
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Post by moonlightgranger on Dec 4, 2007 1:23:12 GMT -5
No, it's just the words he uses and how he sounds kind of squeaky when he talks to us girls, I guess. I don't think so, though.
It actually says it's wrong. I found them on a site and I checked with the bible, so it's right. Lol! it was in the middle of an argument about someone beeing dumb, and she writing stupid fics, that is crap. She was also convicted of a bad family. Lol!
Here they are...
"If a man also lies with mankind, as he lies with a woman both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death;their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus 20:13 "thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down with thereto:it is confusion." Leviticus 18:22,23 mankind- man "There shall be no # of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel." Deuteronomy 23:17
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Post by Frankenstein Heart on Dec 4, 2007 1:31:47 GMT -5
The Bible sure is tasty Err- Specific!
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Post by starbright9 on Dec 4, 2007 12:48:34 GMT -5
Yeah... I knew it said something somewhere...
That is pretty specific. And it even gives punishments. Nice.
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